saving files after upload with firefox failed [resolved?]

[Karlis]

Ok, a couple of diagnostic questions here:

What happens if you disable FireBug?
While you can not save the file in WeBuilder, can you do this in Notepad?
Windows version?

[PARoss]

With Firebug suspended, I cannot save the file in Webuilder.

I cannot save it with Notepad, get the same error message.

I closed the Firefox window, and opened the file in Opera and get the same error messages in both Webuilder and Notepad.

Could it be a Windows setting?

Phil

[Jay Q]

Ok, a couple of diagnostic questions here:

What happens if you disable FireBug?
While you can not save the file in WeBuilder, can you do this in Notepad?
Windows version?

Yes, I can save in Notepad. Also was able to save in other editors including Wordpad, Homesite, and Notepad++.

I'm on Win XP, SP2, FF 3.0.7. Tried multiple versions of Firebug from 1.3.3 down. As mentioned, I confirmed that the behavior only occurs with versions above 1.2.1 on my systems. Tried this on a PC and a laptop, both running Win XP, SP2.

FYI, my standard procedure of uploading via HTTP and editing/saving in WeBuilder only caused this error in FF -- didn't get this behavior when uploading via Safari or IE (didn't try Opera).

Regardless of the outcome of this particular issue/bug with Firebug, I do hope we can have some option in WeBuilder. I'd really like to be in charge of whether or not I overwrite a locked file. Don't know how hard it is to do, but it'd be cool to have an option to have a message pop-up that says which app has a lock on the file upon saving a locked file. Even without such a message, having an option to ignore locked-file status would be peachy.

[Karlis]

I wonder why I can not reproduce this behavior. As I can not repeat it on my computer, I can not do any corrections. Probably a step-by-step guie of how to reproduce the problem would be in place.

I create a new empty HTML file, open it in FF 3.0.8 (if you have 3.0.7, please upgrade so that we are on the same page) with FireBug 1.3.3 panel open. I can still save everything allright.

Side note - while in case of Jay Q I believe something can be done, because it seems to be a soft viloation (other programs are able to save). In case of PARoss, it might be another problem - because if you can not save in Notepad, the file is most likely locked by Windows so that nobody else can touch it.

[PARoss]

Which is why I asked if there is a Windows setting that controls this. Maybe a Windows upgrade added or changed a setting.

I also use xplorer2 (http://www.zabkat.com). I'll check to see if that has locked files.

Doing a Google search on "file cannot be saved with specified name" (the actual error message), brings up only www.blumentals.net. Does this mean that the error message is being generated by Webuilder, and not Windows?

[Jay Q]

I wonder why I can not reproduce this behavior. As I can not repeat it on my computer, I can not do any corrections. Probably a step-by-step guie of how to reproduce the problem would be in place.

I create a new empty HTML file, open it in FF 3.0.8 (if you have 3.0.7, please upgrade so that we are on the same page) with FireBug 1.3.3 panel open. I can still save everything allright.

Ah, let me clarify. This happens only when I upload files via HTTP in FF; merely opening them in FF does not cause the problem. And I've upgraded to 3.0.8 and the same behavior occurs.

[Karlis]

This happens only when I upload files via HTTP in FF;

How do you do that? How can you upload something via HTTP? Or did you mean some FTP plugin? Or did you mean that you opened file via HTTP (web server)?

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Anyways, I'd appreciate if anybody having this problem could first diagnose who has locked the file using the Unlocker (it will come in handy in your computing life): http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ I need to know just to be sure whether it is the same or multiple problems. To solve this we need to know what is going on first and very clearly.

[Jay Q]

How do you do that? How can you upload something via HTTP?

By using an <input> tag with type="file". I'm sure you've seen it. You'll typically see a text input with a button next to it with the word "Browse". Clicking the button opens up a dialog where you can browse the file system and select a file (or you can just type the path in the text box if you know the path). Submitting the form then posts the file.

Anyways, I'd appreciate if anybody having this problem could first diagnose who has locked the file using the Unlocker.

Guess I forgot to report that I've already done this. Unlocker confirmed that it is Firefox that has locked the file. As I previously stated, I even found that it's only versions of Firebug above 1.2.1 that cause a file to be locked.

[Karlis]

Hm..., so you are saying that if you use Browse... field to select file and upload that file, it gets locked forever until FF is closed and that this only happens if particular FireBug version is present? Ok, this is one scenario, but as I see other users have different scenarios. Any info from others would be appreciated.

[hazelir]

How do I transfer my favorites from IE to Firefox? Someone downloaded Firefox on my computer recently, and I've switched at work too. When I did it at work it asked me if I wanted my favorites to go too, and they did. How do I change it if Firefox has already been installed? Any ideas?
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[syrupcore]

How do I transfer my favorites from IE to Firefox? Someone downloaded Firefox on my computer recently, and I've switched at work too. When I did it at work it asked me if I wanted my favorites to go too, and they did. How do I change it if Firefox has already been installed? Any ideas?

go to file menu >import

[Jay Q]

Hm..., so you are saying that if you use Browse... field to select file and upload that file, it gets locked forever until FF is closed and that this only happens if particular FireBug version is present? Ok, this is one scenario, but as I see other users have different scenarios. Any info from others would be appreciated.

Hi Karlis. Do you have any intent to modify the behavior of WB's respect for the locked-file status mentioned in this thread? I'd be perfectly happy with an option in Preferences to override the locked-file behavior. I'm wondering because I'm concerned about the eventual need for me to upgrade to a post-1.2.1 version of Firebug (I'd like to upgrade now, but it isn't necessary yet). Without going into detail, suffice it to say that using Firebug and uploading files via HTTP is a requirement of my job whereas using WB is just my preference. When I'm eventually compelled to upgrade, I'd sadly have to let WB go. I don't mean to be melodramatic -- just stating fact. I really wanna keep using WB, but this could be a deal-breaker. Please let me know if you have no intent to change it, and I'll sadly start looking for another app.

Thanks,
Jay

[Karlis]

I finally was able to reproduce the problem. It seems to have been fixed in Firebug Version 1.4.0b2

[Jay Q]

I finally was able to reproduce the problem. It seems to have been fixed in Firebug Version 1.4.0b2

I've only been able to test this on one PC so far, but it didn't work for me. Using Win XP, SP3, FF 3.5, FB 1.4.0b2. Getting the exact same behavior as before. I'll test this on my laptop ASAP, but can anyone else test this in the meantime?

Karlis, are you not interested in providing some option to disable WeBuilder's functionality in this regard?

[Karlis]

Karlis, are you not interested in providing some option to disable WeBuilder's functionality in this regard?

It appears that I can not, at least not in my development environment (Delphi). Whetever I pass to
Stream := TFileStream.Create(FName, fmCreate);
it raises exception screaming that the file is in use and can not be opened for writing. So I can not even open the file for writing.

Any ideas?