Framework: Bootstrap

[kfury77]

Bootstrap is the most popular front-end HTML/CSS framework. http://getbootstrap.com/
It's the most popular project on Github.com.

I'd really love if there was a plugin/framework add-on for WeBuilder which would offer auto-complete class names from the Bootstrap CSS and I'm sure other WeBuilder customers would appreciate it too.

Could you consider adding this as either a plugin or a framework from Options > Frameworks?

[Aivars]

Alright, I'll add it to suggestions list, although I'm wondering how beneficial this would be considering we're only talking about class names.

[kfury77]

Hi Aivars. Thanks for the reply. If it would be possible for you to start the plugin and just add a single class for now, I'd be very happy to take it over and add all the other classes. I'd be able to maintain the plugin and make it available for all to use.

I'd also be happy to then duplicate it and create one for jQuery Mobile and other popular frameworks.

[Aivars]

I looked at the framework support we have right now and the problem is that currently frameworks can support things like PHP, JavaScript functions but not class names, i.e. when the underlying system was written nobody assumed this would be needed someday. So until CSS support is added to frameworking, this will have to wait.
Btw, I'm wondering if adding bootstrap folder to Library Path of the project would do the same thing?

[kfury77]

I noticed on the 'What's New in WeBuilder 2016' page that 'Developers can now write plugins that alter auto complete dropdown lists'

Does this mean it should be simple to create a plugin to add WeBuilder CSS classes? I'd really love to see this. Would it be possible for someone to create a basic one with a single class name and then I would happily add all the others. (I don't know how to create a plugin that does that from scratch)

Once complete we could possibly make it available as a free plugin from the 'Plugin Catalog'.

[Aivars]

It might be possible but let's wait for the upgrade process to settle down a bit before I can start consider writing new plugins.

[thwbn]

+1 bootstrap support / plug in

And if you do so - please keep in mind that they are on the way to finish bootstrap 4!

[kfury77]

@thwbn - yes, when Aivars helps me create the Bootstrap 3 plugin I'll use the template to create a Bootstrap 4 one and maybe others such as Material Design Lite by Google.

[PeterjmTim]

+1 for this request

[richinri]

As a LONG time user of Webuilder the only reason I haven't upgraded is because every site these days has to be fully responsive. This means fully integrated Bootstrap 4 (at this point.) You can't claim to have a website builder today without it. Whether Webuilder can, in fact, be altered to make websites responsive by default remains to be seen. I hope so.

Richard

[pmk65]

You can't claim to have a website builder today without it.

''Bootstrap has nothing to do with the editor. It's just a 3rd-party library you can use if you are too lazy to code your own CSS framework.
There's several other frameworks available, so why should WeBuilder target Bootstrap specifically?

Personally I don't much like Bootstrap as It is bloated, and contains a lot of features I rarely use.
It's good for writing things like Wordpress Themes, where the end user usually don't have the skills to modify code.

[richinri]

Anyone building a website today that doesn't realize it has to be fully responsive on all devices along with EVERYTHING on the website also being fully responsive is either naive or out of date. Webuilder has plenty of frameworks that are bloated and, to my knowledge, none of them have the multitude of sites that bootstrap does. I guarantee you Webuilder, which as I said I have been a fan of for years, has seen a major drop in sales due to this one factor. If they don't see that, this program is coming to it's end. Make Webuilder able to make fully responsive sites, they will remain in the game. I am not being critical, I know the realities of today's web programming.

[pmk65]

Webuilder has plenty of frameworks that are bloated and, to my knowledge, none of them have the multitude of sites that bootstrap does.

Which frameworks? My Webuilder 2016 has no build'in framework support?

Again. Bootstrap is NOT a requirement for making responsive designs.
There's several other CSS/JS frameworks like: Foundation 3, Kube, Skeleton, Gumby etc. (You can also make your own)

Framework support should NEVER be part of the editor, but something provided by a plugin. Then it's up to the user which framework should be supported.

[richinri]

Well, Webuilder's bottom line and income statements along with renewals will and, I am sure, is telling the real story here. I hope they can transition. It is called a web BUILDER after all. I know of no web builder that doesn't also allow editing capabilities. Let me ask, how many websites have you built and are they fully responsive.

[pmk65]

Let me ask, how many websites have you built and are they fully responsive.

100+, I have lost track of how many sites I have made.
Several of them are responsive. Some using Bootstrap, Kube and other framework and some build using custom frameworks.

When WeBuilder gets plugin support for class names, I'll make a framework plugin.