I am attempting to set a shortcut key (ctrl + shift + f4) to custom snippet (padding:0px) in the library via the snippet editor. This is set as expected (it allows me to set it to (ctrl + shift + f4) without any difficulty. However when I am in the editor and press (ctrl + shift + f4) to add a padding, Webuilder attempts to close the document. It seems as though (ctrl + shift + f4) is permanently binded (bound?) to close the document. I went into the keyboard shortcuts but could not find a setting for (ctrl + shift + f4) and the close document was not set to any shortcut. I then tried setting it to a different, unused shortcut hoping it would over-ride the binding. No luck - still insists on wanting to close the document.
I am getting the same problem with (ctrl + shift + f6) permanently binding to "goto next document". Again, the shortcut key is properly set to a custom snippet in the library. How can I overide these default settings?
I am using the latest version 9.52
Bug: keyboard shortcut 'ctrl + shift + f4' stuck to 'close'
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Re: Bug: keyboard shortcut 'ctrl + shift + f4' stuck to 'close'
This is actually not a bug. It is also not a programmed behavior. It is standard Windows MDI application behavior. Some combinations (such as Ctrl+Alt+Del and Ctrl+F4) are reserved by Windows.
The code editor is an MDI Application (multi document interface), and similarly like Ctrl + F4 closes a window (and this is a global Windows-wide feature), Shift + Ctrl + F4 makes closes the internal document window. Not much we can or should do.
The code editor is an MDI Application (multi document interface), and similarly like Ctrl + F4 closes a window (and this is a global Windows-wide feature), Shift + Ctrl + F4 makes closes the internal document window. Not much we can or should do.
Re: Bug: keyboard shortcut 'ctrl + shift + f4' stuck to 'close'
Hi Karlis
Thanks for the quick response. While I agree that this is not a bug, I am curious as to why this behavior cannot be over-ridden (beyond what you have already mentioned). I have used Homesite for years and have always set ALL of my Control-Shift F1 - F12 keys to various css snippets. Using these keys as shortcuts is deeply habitualized for me. I have also test run Topstyle4 (which is vying with Webuilder to replace Homesite for me) and Topstyle also allows ALL Control-Shift-F1-F12 default windows settings to be over-ridden (as well as all other f-key combinations). I would be curious to know what the differences with these two programs are (are they not also MDI applications?).
I think Webuilder is an excellent program, btw - I keep upgrading with every release just to keep abreast of the new features - even though I just can't seem to shake free of Homesite
keep up the great work!
Thanks for the quick response. While I agree that this is not a bug, I am curious as to why this behavior cannot be over-ridden (beyond what you have already mentioned). I have used Homesite for years and have always set ALL of my Control-Shift F1 - F12 keys to various css snippets. Using these keys as shortcuts is deeply habitualized for me. I have also test run Topstyle4 (which is vying with Webuilder to replace Homesite for me) and Topstyle also allows ALL Control-Shift-F1-F12 default windows settings to be over-ridden (as well as all other f-key combinations). I would be curious to know what the differences with these two programs are (are they not also MDI applications?).
I think Webuilder is an excellent program, btw - I keep upgrading with every release just to keep abreast of the new features - even though I just can't seem to shake free of Homesite

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Re: Bug: keyboard shortcut 'ctrl + shift + f4' stuck to 'close'
They are not MDI applications, so Windows do not reserve this key combo for them. MDI - means that you can not only have many documents open and switch between them using document tabs, but also each document resides in its own window, so you can stack them side by side which is useful in various occasions.
It is not that we have chosen the key combination on our own or that other developers have worked around it. It is simply that WeBuilder has an MDI architecture, which is mostly a plus, except for this tiny matter.
It is not that we have chosen the key combination on our own or that other developers have worked around it. It is simply that WeBuilder has an MDI architecture, which is mostly a plus, except for this tiny matter.
Re: Bug: keyboard shortcut 'ctrl + shift + f4' stuck to 'close'
This is one of those unfortunate situations where coders and developers are bound (if you'll pardon the pun) by the rules of the Windows interface. It is a bit of a curse but I'm sure that after binding another key combination to it, a few hours use will have the new combo firmly implanted in your lizard memory.
I struggled with this as well initially but now things are second nature and I don't miss the old combos at all, though I do admit to sometimes 'forgetting' I have set new shortcuts and hit the old ones out of a deeper habit.
Dave.
I struggled with this as well initially but now things are second nature and I don't miss the old combos at all, though I do admit to sometimes 'forgetting' I have set new shortcuts and hit the old ones out of a deeper habit.
Dave.