Possible Bug? : Rapid PHP 2006 Adding lines of code?

Rewt · Post by **Rewt** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:41 pm

Rapid PHP 2006
Ver 7.2 (7.2.0.68)

First off, I love the product. I was using the demo of htmlpad2006, and when I went to purchase, found RapidPHP 2006, and bought it instead.

Here's the problem I am having:

When I edit a file locally and save it to the FTP site, something get's goofed in the code I just uploaded. It's been the last couple of lines each time. It typically duplicates the last 5 or 6 lines of code when this happens.

Resaving the file does nothing.. I get the same results.

I tried searching the forum briefly, but found nothing like this... thoughts?

Post by **chrisjlocke** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:08 pm

There is a topic here about files being truncated:
http://forums.blumentals.net/viewtopic.php?t=1363

I assume its the same related FTP issue.

Unsure whats going on, but does it always do it? ie, on new files, or when you overwrite an existing file? If you add text to the file and save, is it ok? I'm guessing its a file size issue - the program only sending x number of characters. Wild stab in the dark though, and only baseing that on the previous topic.

Do you know the type of server you're using? Linux, Windows, etc?

Rewt · Post by **Rewt** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:25 pm

chrisjlocke wrote:There is a topic here about files being truncated:

I saw that one, but didn't think that duplicating the last X lines was truncating a file...

It happens when I edit an existing file. Either by FTP, or locally then FTP'ing it up to the server. I just tested it on a new file, and it didn't do anything.

Just now, when I attempted to edit a file using the FTP browser, I got the FIRST four lines gone...

Do you know the type of server you're using? Linux, Windows, etc?

Sure. It's a Linux box. RHFC3, I belive.

Rewt · Post by **Rewt** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:42 pm

OK, here's what *just* happened...

I edited a FAQ on one of my pages via FTP. I added some lines, saved to ftp, worked fine.

I *DELETED* the lines, and it all went whacky.

This is the end of the file as it is shown on Rapid PHP:

Code: Select all

 <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#FFFFCC">We accept all common formats, including Quicktime, Windows Media, MPEG, MPG, ASF, MOV, WMV
     and most forms of AVI. If for some reason your video format is not accepted, please contact us, and we'll work
     with you to get your video converted.
    </td>
  </tr>
 </table>

This is what it looks like online right now:

Code: Select all

<tr>
    <td bgcolor="#FFFFCC">We accept all common formats, including Quicktime, Windows Media, MPEG, MPG, ASF, MOV, WMV
     and most forms of AVI. If for some reason your video format is not accepted, please contact us, and we'll work
     with you to get your video converted.
    </td>
  </tr>
 </table>
 <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><strong>Q: What is the maximum file size you allow?
    </strong> </td>

  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF">We typically limit our web form to about a 10meg file. If your file is larger, you may
    contact us for a <strong>Professional Services</strong> quote.
    </td>
  </tr>
</table>

The extra stuff after the ending </table> was what I had deleted. It shows as deleted in the editor, but not when it ftp's it up!

The file on the system looks just like it does in the editor... the stuff after the </table> is not there.

It's almost as if it's being cached somewhere within Rapid PHP....

Post by **chrisjlocke** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:28 pm

Weird. I don't know how Karlis transfers files via FTP, but he might not overwrite the existing file, but write into it, if that makes sense.

If possible, try deleting the file on the remote server, and FTP'ing the file back up again. I appreciate it might involve using an FTP client to delete the file, or via some online system (cPanel for example).

If that works, then its a clue to what the problem is. Mind you, Karlis might already know what the problem is...

Rewt · Post by **Rewt** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:42 pm

When I delete the file on the server, then try to resave it via RapidPHP's FTP option, I get errors.

Using the "Save and upload to FTP" button:

Code: Select all

FTP Error: Access Denied or file not found.

Of course it's not found. I deleted it. Leads me to think RapidPHP's caching it again....

Using File -> Save to FTP, I get "FTP Error" once I log in, and browse to the directory I want to save it to.

Post by **chrisjlocke** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:45 pm

Hmm. Again it sounds like its trying to open the file to 'import' into it. Maybe.
Bizarre.

I've had probs with the FTP 'locking up' (again, an isolated problem) so tend to work locally, and use FileZilla as an FTP client. Not a perfect solution, admittedly.

Rewt · Post by **Rewt** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:49 pm

That's what I'm trying to get out of. I use FlashFXP as a FTP client, but the amount of time saved by not having to switch to another client to FTP a file up is incredible...

The odd thing is this didn't happen until I got the full blown version of the software....

Post by **chrisjlocke** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:55 pm

Isn't that the point of upgrades - break what was working, and add new bugs!

(Sorry Karlis! Only joking! )

Rewt · Post by **Rewt** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:17 pm

Just out of curiosity, how long does it normally take Karlis to address issues?

Post by **chrisjlocke** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:49 pm

Depends on the issue. If its solvable, then it'll be in the next update. If there are too many 'fixes', then it'll be in the next update.

It works around a priority system - the important bugs and most requested features get fixed first.

How long between updates? Normally a month or so, if Karlis can get enough time at the keyboard.

We're working on cloning him, so we can get updates out faster!

(Have you seen Multiplicity?! haha!!)

Rewt · Post by **Rewt** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:05 am

OK, I might be a little confused here with the process...

1.) I pay for a piece of software
2.) I have a problem, and report it / ask for help
3.) Am given a few suggestions, all of which I've tried.
4.) I get told to wait until an update, but that MIGHT not solve my issue.

I'm not wanting to sound hostile at all... but the software is useless to me if it is going to perform the way it does.

I can understand bugs, and I can understand issues.

I can't understand #4 from above.

Post by **chrisjlocke** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:24 am

If Karlis can look at the code and go, "Oh, its because of that variable not being set" and solve it, then it'll be done tomorrow.
If Karlis scratches his head and can't reproduce it, its going to take longer to fix.

Even if Karlis can identify what the problem is, it might require a complete re-write of a whole bunch of code.

Writing these applications isn't Karlis's full-time job, and he can't spend all day developing these programs. Unfortunately, its when he can spare the time. He had loads of time ages ago, but real life gets in the way of coding all the time. (urgh - that paragraph has way too many 'times' in it... my grammar is awful!)

If you pay for the software, you're automatically given the benefit of future updates within that version.

I'd argue that the software is useless with this 'issue' - a temporary workaround has been suggested by using a standalone FTP client. I appreciate its not ideal, but its a splint while it limps along until Dr Karlis gets on the scene...

Post by **Karlis** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:27 pm

Ok, so the file truncation problem is going to be fixed in the next release. I spent a lot of time and found out that it is actually a bug of ProFTPD server. So I had to re-write FTP code so that it works around the buggyness of some FTP servers.

Anyway the update is planned to be released in mid-September.

Rewt · Post by **Rewt** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:39 pm

I can deal with a mid-september release of the update. Until then, I'll just continue to use a stand alone ftp client to do the transfers.

Many thanks.

Rewt