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Vote for useless features

Post by Karlis »

We have loads of feature requests. In order to maintain speed and keep our editors clean it would be a good idea to remove any features/options that *nobody* really uses.

Please feel free to discuss this here...
Last edited by Karlis on Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by syrupcore »

not suggesting any of this stuff is useless but it's all stuff I never seem to use:

'highlight urls'
'preview' ;0
'spell check'
'show invisible characters'
'object browser'
'markup browser'
'inspector'
all the html insert stuff (table, form, <hr>, frames, nbsp...)
all the css insert stuff (font, bold, italic, center, @import...)
'publish to FTP'
'send by mail' (hmm, html newsletters?)
'stylesheet wizard'
'manage layouts' I just have a full layout and use f4 to hide everything when I need the room

again, not suggesting these aren't useful to people - just what I don't use.
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Post by ricktu »

syrupcore I can understand and agree with most of what you said but are you telling me you don't spellcheck the websites you make ?????

Everyone makes mistakes typing out content. How are you getting away with not checking it ? Nothing looks worse than a spelling error on a commercial website. :)
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Post by syrupcore »

funny, just yesterday (after I posted that) some one asked me to correct 'healthcar'. :oops: Generally though, I'm sorta particular about spelling on the way in.

Most of my days, I'm taking content some one else has prepared and inserting it into html docs. They own the content and have, presumably, taken care of checking its spelling. I also do a lot (mostly) of cms development - I never even touch the content. We develop sites for people to populate their own content.

All that said, I'm sure spell check is a might handy feature for lots of people. I think it would be hard for any one here to call any single feature 'useless'. Instead, I thought it would be better to simply list the features we don't use and let Karlis then decide what might be considered 'useless' or perhaps 'far less useful'.

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Post by kfury77 »

ricktu wrote:syrupcore I can understand and agree with most of what you said but are you telling me you don't spellcheck the websites you make ?????

Everyone makes mistakes typing out content. How are you getting away with not checking it ? Nothing looks worse than a spelling error on a commercial website. :)
I 100% agree with you. I **always** have WeBuilder set to spell-check automatically and would hate it if this feature was removed. Instead, I want to see an improved auto spell-check which ignores HTML tags (it currently underlines most tags in the colour red as spelling mistakes if commented out!). I wish it would either a) include all HTML tags already in the spell checker or b) don't spell check text that is commented out.

b) is more preferable to me.
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Post by Karlis »

Ok, these two seem pretty non-popular for me too, who else agrees?

'object browser'
'markup browser'
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Post by ricktu »

Karlis wrote:Ok, these two seem pretty non-popular for me too, who else agrees?

'object browser'
'markup browser'
Well as for myself I have never used either of them.
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Post by peep »

syrupcore wrote: 'preview' ;0
'spell check'
'show invisible characters'
all the html insert stuff (table, form, <hr>, frames, nbsp...)
all the css insert stuff (font, bold, italic, center, @import...)
'publish to FTP'
'stylesheet wizard'
'manage layouts'
'highlight urls'
'spell check'
'object browser'
'markup browser'
all the html insert stuff (table, form, <hr>, frames, nbsp...)
all the css insert stuff (font, bold, italic, center, @import...)
all the PHP insert stuff
'publish to FTP'
'send by mail' (hmm, html newsletters?)
'stylesheet wizard'
'manage layouts'
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Post by Scorpius »

Karlis wrote:Ok, these two seem pretty non-popular for me too, who else agrees?

'object browser'
I don't use this either. The rest I actually do use.

One other thing to go is Insert Marquee.
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Scorpius wrote:One other thing to go is Insert Marquee.
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Post by Script-Kiddy »

Do not remove "Upload to FTP". It's one of the best helpers in the webuilder IDE.
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Post by jbjaaz »

First, do not remove "Upload to FTP" or "spellcheck". Especially spellcheck.

Do remove...
'highlight urls'
'show invisible characters'
'object browser'
'markup browser'
'send by mail'
'html page wizard'
'stylesheet wizard'
'manage layouts'
'insert color' - or make it better by allowing picking colors from a much larger palette
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Post by parcley »

i use the "all the html insert stuff (table, form, <hr>, frames, nbsp...) " quite a bit...when i don't feel like typing forms or forget all the syntax - same goes for tables...it's nice to have a dialog that asks what you want and doesn't bloat the code.

i don't use very often but i think that there is value in having the object browser and the markup browser.

i use spell check

i love the idea of having a preview...but i've never used an editor with a preview pane and had it actually work right. there's always little nuances that screw the render up- when it's not screwed up. so i've always just used a browser...i won't miss the preview feature. (although- it is nice to have a preview of css documents - i like the way it helps me visualize the various elements without content or layout...)
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I can't agree

Post by gusc »

Actualy I don't use those features, but that's not a point of software to remove something that was there before for a long time. Actualy for newbies thease "Object Browser" and "Markup Browser" features could be best-thing-ever. Well only if it makes performance isues - only then do remove :)

As for me I don't use menus:
HTML,
CSS,
PHP (except for "Syntax Check"),
Format HTML

And I have also removed all the Tollbars (more coding area)
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Post by notuo »

I have to agree with gusc mostly. Regarding the issue, why to delete it. Is there, no harm is done. Maybe not to improve it but why to remove it?
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