"New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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"New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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Hello,

could you please consider re-adding the missing keyboard shortcut option "New..." in one of the next WeBuilder 2014 beta releases? I really miss this, because opening a new file via keyboard worked like a charm with this (e.g. Ctril+N -> P -> Return, for a new PHP file).

A screenshot from the latest 2011 version:
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Re: "New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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There used to be 2 "New" commands - one with dialog and other without. I assume you have re-configured your WeBuilder 2011 Ctrl+N to use "New..." with dialog, which is removed from WeBuilder 2014. Currently you can assign different shortcuts for New, New PHP, New HTML and New CSS File commands.
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Re: "New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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Aivars wrote: "New..." with dialog, which is removed from WeBuilder 2014
Why? That's a pitty! The functionality is still available as dropdown menu via mouse click on the arrow next to the "New" icon in the toolbar. I don't see the benefits of removing this shortcut. The new ones are ok, but I don't want to add different shortcuts for every seperate "New XYZ" which is available. Furthermore, it is not possible to assign shortcuts for every available file type, just HTML, CSS, PHP. JS is used very often too, I suspect. But please consider not to just add another "New XYZ" to the shortcut list for JS, just bring back the old option.

I don't think, I am the only one who will miss it. Thanks.
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Re: "New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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I've told Karlis your concerns. I don't know if he will put the form back or not... In worst case it will be possible to make a plugin that does what that dialog did easily enough after we have finished plugin writing documentation.
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Re: "New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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I did not think about this from your angle as, ftankly, your old method is pretty weird. It works, sure, and it was a brilliant invention for the past situation, but I doubt it was very popular and I doubt everybody else figured it out.

So you are now saying that Ctril+N -> P -> Return is better shortcut then just Ctrl+Shift+P that you could assign to PHP? Sounds to me more like a burned-in habit due to better method not existing in the past. I do believe that Ctrl+Shift+P alone would be a humongus time saver vs your old chain of actions. Trust me, once you start using Ctrl+Shift+P (or whatever) instead of your old "shortcut", you will get used to it within days.

I do agree about JS [probably we should add it too], but how often really one needs other file types on a daily basis? And how much faster is Ctril+N -> X -> Return if you need it only once every few days?

Since there will be plugin system, you will be able to write a plugin that does this or whatever other specific wishes :D

I also welcome opinion from other users. If you never used this technique let us know, if you did use it, let us know as well.
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Re: "New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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Karlis wrote:So you are now saying that Ctrl+N -> P -> Return is better shortcut then just Ctrl+Shift+P that you could assign to PHP? Sounds to me more like a burned-in habit due to better method not existing in the past.
Maybe you're right concerning the burned-in habitat.
Karlis wrote:I do agree about JS [probably we should add it too], but how often really one needs other file types on a daily basis? And how much faster is Ctrl+N -> X -> Return if you need it only once every few days?
Would you like to run benchmarks :D ? As you already said, maybe it's just a habitat. But as mentioned above "probably we should as JS too" - what about the other file types. Maybe somebody is DB engineer or Rails developer. Do you add every file type now and then, as requested, to the shortcut list? Even if you do so, I need then "Ctrl+Shift+P", "Ctrl+Shift+H", "Ctrl+Shift+C", "Ctrl+Shift+J", "Ctrl+Shift+S", ... I mean, even if "Ctrl+N -> ... -> Return" is a bad habitat, it's just one shortcut where every file type is available.
Karlis wrote:Since there will be plugin system, you will be able to write a plugin that does this or whatever other specific wishes :D
That's nice and very welcomed, but is it so hard for you just to re-add this dialog ;) ? How many lines of code are those? Shall I spend a beer ;) ?

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Re: "New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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EvilBMP wrote: That's nice and very welcomed, but is it so hard for you just to re-add this dialog ;) ? How many lines of code are those? Shall I spend a beer ;) ?
I am concerned that you are one of the only two people using this technique and the second one may as well not exist. Each dialog wastes precious bytes and adds weight, so unless a lot of people request that dialog back, I will be very reluctant to do it even for one of our best customers and even for a beer :D What we can do is create a "Quick New File" plugin especially for you. With such plugin you might even cut your habit to Ctrl + N -> P (without return)

Anyways, I will analyze the situation and you will have your Ctrl + N -> P back in one way or another, just stay calm. We won't leave you in distress :-)
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Re: "New..." keyboard shortcut missing in WeBuilder v12b4

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Thanks in advance... :D
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